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  Just received a visit from 2 Elders

  by Driving Force in

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  the elders did not stay long and it wasn`t an official visit sanctioned by the boe/cobe because they were not from my (ex)congregation.

  we talked a little about my situation and the fact that my wife does not talk to me and how non-scriptural her behavior is.. then they mentioned the rc and how it was the best convention for the last 20 years.

  one thing they did mention was the fact that the borg was clearly preparing them for persecution.

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  Punk

  Company men methinks!

  You are probably right on that, but as my fade is new, this is giving me experience in reasoning with them without exposing my apostate attitudes.
  
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  Just received a visit from 2 Elders

  by Driving Force in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the elders did not stay long and it wasn`t an official visit sanctioned by the boe/cobe because they were not from my (ex)congregation.

  we talked a little about my situation and the fact that my wife does not talk to me and how non-scriptural her behavior is.. then they mentioned the rc and how it was the best convention for the last 20 years.

  one thing they did mention was the fact that the borg was clearly preparing them for persecution.

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  Driving Force

  The Elders did not stay long and it wasn`t an official visit sanctioned by the BOE/COBE because they were not from my (ex)congregation. We talked a little about my situation and the fact that my wife does not talk to me and how non-scriptural her behavior is.

  Then they mentioned the RC and how it was the best convention for the last 20 years. One thing they did mention was the fact that the bOrg was clearly preparing them for persecution. I did not attend the RC, and I will never again attend any, but did anybody else who did attend notice this aspect?

  I brought up a controversial subject, that of Child Baptism and disfellowshipping of teenagers. One of the Elders was of the opinion that if a baptized teenager does something and gets themselves disfellowshiped it is their own fault, at this I wanted to kick him in the balls, but I resisted the temptation. The argument from my side that a teenager needs every support they can get did not interest him. Anyway both Elders are completely against children and teenagers getting baptized, which is very positive and one even went as far as saying that if his SIL coerces any of his grandchildren into getting baptized, then he would go ballistic, again something positive. So apparently the latest push on the part of the bOrg leadership to have young ones baptized, doe not appear to be having a positive affect.
  

  I wanted to talk about TOMOs rant on child abuse, but they had to leave.
  
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  Reliable source - new round of US Bethel layoffs coming soon

  by sir82 in

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  2. friends

  was talking to an ex-bethelite who is still very well-connected to those in the ivory tower.. he says that there will soon be a(nother) large number of us bethelites who will be "reassigned to the field" as pioneers and special pioneers.. he did not give his source, but he is pretty reliable.

  incidentally, he was "reassigned to the field" in the last big purge about 7 years ago.. i imagine those so reassigned would be pretty teed off.

  let go just before the golden lakeshore palace was completed..

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  sparrowdown

  please God send us a Bethel Edward Snowden.

  that gave me a good giggle.
  
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  Why Is This New Batch of Governing Body Members So Stupid?

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

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  2. beliefs

  well there are lots of reason for sure, denial, delusion, wishful thinking, ego maniac, infantile understanding of ancient writings, satanophobia, xenophobia, out of touch with reality, limited choices scrapping the bottom of the barrel,and many more.. listen to this ted talk and see if you can pick out something that helps explain why these guys are such ass holes:.

  organizations are often run according to the superchicken model, where the value is placed on star employees who outperform others.

  and yet, this isnt what drives the most high-achieving teams.

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  Tim310rd

  I know that since waking up I have also noticed how my thinking ability was handicapped and not just in all things JW.

  Thats a very good statement and I see that with myself also.
  
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  Anthony Morris III goes on an eight minute rant over child abuse

  by Richard_I in

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  2. friends

  this is in the july 2015 monthly program on tv.jw.org cedars wrote about it too.. starting at around 42:30 in the video, morris talks about the child abuse situation for almost 10 minutes.

  link to video.

  i'm writing a transcript right now.

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  Sir82

  So for those who read body language & facial expressions - what is he really saying?

  I am no expert, but I have always found the subject fascinating so I read up on the subject.

  To be honest, I cannot see anything in any of the GB members. I would say that they are coached how not to give anything away, and if they do give anything away they no doubt do a retake.
  
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  JW's came to my door 6 weeks ago. I told them I was inactive.......

  by Alchemist in

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  6 weeks ago some jws came to my door.

  i've been inactive for 8 years.

  after they gave their presentation i told them i was inactive.

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  All active JWs are living a lie, probable most unknowingly, some knowingly.
  

  Outside the organization that's a different matter.
  
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  Jehovah's Witnesses and Child Sexual Abuse BBC Radio 4

  by Driving Force in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0612hjs.

  this is for the 11th june..

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  Driving Force

  Oh,
  I lost a month somewhere.
  
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  What Jehovah can't do...

  by C0ntr013r in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  during the rc today i heard this(i am paraphrasing and translating):.

  "jehovah has created the physical universe for us.

  he is a spirit and he can't enjoy physical things so he created it for us alone.

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  When I was an active witness I always liked the text that says "God cannot lie". Now I know TTATT to me this text is just another proof that God/Jehovah/creator or whatever you want to call the man in the sky is not with Jehovah's Witnesses because it is an organization where the head lies, cheats, protects pedophiles, delivers weapons, etc.
  

  All these things, I am sure, are things that the "God that cannot lie" would have nothing to do with.
  
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  Jehovah's Witnesses and Child Sexual Abuse BBC Radio 4

  by Driving Force in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0612hjs.

  this is for the 11th june..

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  http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0612hjs

  This is for the 11th June.
  
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  How many JW Families do you know of who hate each other and shun each other? "Religion of Hatred" 1.a

  by The1975Blues in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when you were attending the kingdom halls did you see feuds and hate filled wars against members working on the new personality?

  how strong were the elders in keeping their halls filled with love not hatred, jesus said everyone would be filled with love, there was no room for hatred in jesus christ's view of how christians ought to act!

  when you see children shunning parents, parents shunning children, aunts, uncles, grandma and grandpas displaying qualities jesus said were "instant tickets to hell" why do the jws keep attending the meetings if their filled with hate?

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  Stan.

  That sucks. Sorry to hear that.